Comments on: Here’s How To Transform A Good Conversation Into Good Loving.

By: Danno

Danno — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:30:15 +0000

i like the idea of making avatars to present yourself in the “values” arena but, term this out in a way that could apply to a few “scenes” like at a party or in a club or something other than just the day game context thats presented here, literrally, im less than a natural and id like some feedback on this

By: Danno

Danno — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:22:44 +0000

the term “elicit” used in this is a great example of the way an expanded knowledge of vocabulary can work for any body who dares to know it oh, and if you see any subtlety in what you “read” you dont necessarily HAVE to telegraph it but you can monitor your internal responses to what you see and hear and feel and whatever else there may be, indeed because, god? knows there are women out there who ju8st cant stand the guy who can grasp this kind of an idea and also says that he has trouble with actually USING it. oh hes just catching on to the idea of women being appreciative of its potential for ETC…ETC…(positive) also

By: Dino-

Dino- — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:08:24 +0000

By: Dino-

Dino- — Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:00:00 +0000

so if you elicit “this” set of values, then go on to “that” set, distinguishing each set of responses becomes your “own” challenge then right? and then, the “roles” can become whatever the TWO of you want them to, “if” that is, youre both in the least bit “on the same page” at which time, the “mystery” and the comfort zones can be introduced.

By: Tizzy

Tizzy — Sat, 02 May 2009 05:03:11 +0000

Very impressed, I have used this with good results in the past. Joe however has a valid point as i have recently done this with a “less than” functional woman who ended up having more baggage than i built her up to have so i would stress not to build but modify. Further more i also agree with T.P. on the “Take the same girl and elicit one set of values, you’ll get one set of responses. Elicit another set of values, and you’ll get another set of responses.”.

By: Roger

Roger — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:58:44 +0000

Would you post some tips on what to do when you’re talking to a girl, everything’s going well, but you just can’t come up with anything witty to make her laugh? My brain just freezes and nothing comes that I can use. Even though I’m a pretty witty guy when I’m not under pressure and I’m relaxed. How do I get the brain to work?
Thanks.

By: T.P.

T.P. — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:06:30 +0000

Hey Joe.

Point well taken. We definitely want emotionally stable girls. But I think the responses I mentioned are more universal than you think, and they do depend on which values have been elicited up to that point in the conversation.

Take the same girl and elicit one set of values, you’ll get one set of responses. Elicit another set of values, and you’ll get another set of responses.

Whether it’s a “quality” girl or a “dysfunctional” girl, you want to watch which values you’re eliciting early on.

By: Joe Ferrari

Joe Ferrari — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:51:39 +0000

Most of these reactions mentioned seem to be from girls that are disfunctional. Girls that go from guy to guy because they dont have the skills to keep a guy. Why work for something not worth having?

By: Richard

Richard — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:18:13 +0000

I like the idea of values better than frames actually, and this sounds like an excellent method. I will be trying this idea out tomorrow night.

By: T.P.

T.P. — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:15:51 +0000

Thanks for the comment agentX.

Gerry, I hope to give more detail in future posts. I want to give specific advice about how to elicit and express values using quick (20 second) stories and a couple very basic cold reads.

Also, I want to discuss when to elicit values, how to reinforce them throughout the conversation, and how to protect her avatar from being contaminated with values that come from the other avatars she has for her friends.

In the meantime, get good at approaching women and getting into conversation, because it all starts there.